@misc{indiciae951f5c097dd1,
  title = {Conversation with Mr. James Ch'ien.},
  author = {J M Ch'ien},
  year = {1981},
  doi = {10.1111/j.1360-0443.1981.tb00203.x},
  url = {https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/6937207/},
  note = {Source identifier: 6937207}
}